I sell it on my site. You can at least see pictures of it. Technical name is linen phenolic, trade name is garolite LE. http://deezmaker.com/store/#!/~/product/category=0&id=34282277
I just got 3mm canvas bakelite. Warming it to 65 degrees C seems to be helping as well.
@Shachar_Weis I’m only heating to 30 degrees and get great adhesion on the garolite.
@Jarred_Baines not sure about the tufnol grades, but as I said, the one I linked to is the stuff I’m having success with.
Following that link under the second tab (product range I think) there are 2 brands conforming to different specs… Do u know which you have? If not I’ll just ask and see if they give me a “default” grade
A couple hundreds of anything: then 3dprinting probably isnt the best choice anyway.
@Tim_Rastall That sheet is only 0.4 mm thick. Did you need to glue it to something? I am wondering whether to pay more money and get the 4 mm sheet.
@Kit_Adams Yep, epoxied to aluminium. That RS price gives you 5 sheets btw.
100 of these parts on 1 tray, about 400 needed every 2 years… so that’s 2 full 5 hour prints a year… It costs me almost nothing in plastic because they are so small (Less than $2 per 100 in ABS, haven’t calculated in nylon) and wouldn’t be too costly in electricity/wear and tear etc…
I think it’s a fabulous way to make them Previously we’d get a 10mm steel bar, cut it to 4mm lengths, drill it in a milling machine and have to debur it all over - this way is MUCH easier and cheaper for us and the customer and doesn’t require a mold to be made for such a small batch. I can’t imagine too many plastic molding places doing a run of 200-400 for a part this small either. (It’s 10mm dia by 4mm high)
Thanks again guys for all your help will order monday!
One advantage of using Garolite LE sheets glued to thin sheet metal is that you can easily swap them and keep printing. And you can flex the metal to pop the prints loose (though Nylon sticks quite well to Garolite).
Yeah I use 3mm aluminum under my blue tape, I put it into the press at work once to pop a part off
@Jarred_Baines , go to the hardware store and get “Masonite” or whatever it’s called in your area. It’s basically paper pulp pressed down into a flexible board. It’s very fibrous. And it hangs on to vinyl very nicely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonite
Print on the smooth side. The rough side doesn’t hold as well for me.
I used garolite initially but I had serious over-adhesion. The parts weld to it too well, and it is too fragile to handle the stress of getting them to release. The parts do look pretty when it first runs, though.
Moisture is probably not the cause of this problem. Moisture causes popping and hissing as you print, and the nylon will look foamy instead of clear as it leaves the hot end.
HA - I KNEW Masonite would come up at some point, it works well ay? My old man has a big sheet of it at his place, might go snip a bit off before ordering anything in - thanks a stack @Phil_Hord !
I did switch back to the garolite when I had a tall skinny tower to print, but it really didn’t work much better than the masonite and I still had the welding problem. I added a brim instead and the masonite worked fine even for that.
I’d probably like the garolite better if it was thicker. I got a thin sheet. I thought about slicing it into strips to make a “permanent raft” but it seems like too much for too little.
I’ve even printed on cardboard quite well, but it tends to curl. For your small pieces, a stiff cardboard might work, though.
cornflakes box on 3mm aluminium… hmmm…
I’ll probably try masonite first up cos I have a buttload (exact measurement) and I know I can get more less than 5k’s from home… If it works well, it will be my EASIEST solution (aaah… easy solutions )
Pity my heated bed died last night, AND took out my power connector with it… 2nd time it’s happened… >_< Those god-damned screw terminals!!! If I get the board up and running again it will NOT be with screw terminals this time!
Good thing you don’t need to heat masonite to get nylon to stick on it.
Awesome
I have 1 ‘slither’ of masonite at work - 213mm wide by about a metre… Just perfect
Fixed the power connector last night, decided to go heated-bed-less for now and try out this roll of nylon.
Please post your results.
I sure will, Thanks again everyone!
Retraction is funny on Nylon. You must retract a lot and move quickly because it begins to ooze fast. Without retraction you get lots of strings. Nylon strings are very strong, though, and difficult to remove.