Hey Everybody! Today I ran into problems finishing a "for a friend" job and

Hey Everybody!

Today I ran into problems finishing a “for a friend” job and it’s suddenly taking all my time. I’ve read every post about long cables, distance, twisted wires, data communication and so on. But my question is, as for everybody, slightly different :wink:

Take a ledstrip, lets say 4 meters of apa102, then 4 meter cable and then 4 meters of ledstrip and so on… so something like this:
ledledledledled--------cable4meters-------ledledledled--------cable4meters-ledledledled-------

Without the “cable4meters”, all ledsstrips behind each other, everything is working fine but with cable all leds in the second strip start to flicker.

Yes, I inject power before each ledstrip, yes, the data signal is 5v, even dug up and Arduino Uno to be sure. Still, weak data signal.

This is the cable I use: http://nl.rs-online.com/web/p/mains-power-cable/9107790
Usually 5 meters between the Arduino and the leds is no problem.

Is there a way to amplify the signal, data and clock? Should I use other cable, add resistors or would something like http://ltech-led.eu/en/spi/1515-spi-signal-amplifier-2ch.html work?

Or just let them use plain old, white not addressable led strips?

Tried using cat5 or cat6 cable? It’s designed specifically to reduce noise on long runs. Might need 100 ohm impedance matching resistors, like what’s used in the Teensy OctoWS2811 adaptor: https://www.pjrc.com/store/octo28_adaptor.html

The 100 Ohm resistor is a so called source termination resistor. To find the exact value you also can trim a 220 Ohm pot.

Every APA102 has a signal former on board. If you can place a single LED half in your cable4meters it would act as signal amplifier.

Thanks guys, will try this today!

That worked, signal problem solved, thanks guys!
Since I would like to have just 1 cable going to the lights would it be possible to use the same cat5 left over cables for power?

Yes people have used the other wires for power. Glad it’s working better.

Also looking into multi cables, but these are freaking expensive so I’ll guess we have to use the cat5 one. What’s best, flexible core or solid?