I am sick of the bullshit propaganda of 3D printed guns as a threat to society, I don’t know about you but the last thing I want to do is print a gun and from what I heard it can only shoot 3 to 6 times and it blows up in your face.
This Cody Wilson character is a plant and patsy, he is the brainchild of infowars and Alex Jones, if you know anything about Alex he is a fake conspiracy theorist, fear monger and loser.
Please!, when people start talking about 3D printed guns shut them down, tell it makes no sense to make something out of plastic when you can go down to home depot and buy everything there to make a fully functioning gun, how come they aren’t trying to legislate metal pipes and nails at Home Depot?
The bigger picture is this is a disruptive technology, you wont need to buy useless crap from China you can make what ever you want on the fly right in your own home.
I also think it is interesting that the moron politicians in New York are trying to push the ban on this undetectable fire arms act, this act was originally put in place because of Glocks that are made of a high impact plastic are undetectible in metal detectors and ironically a favorite of law enforcement, additionally New York is like the Mecca of 3D printing with Makerbot in Brooklyn and Shapeways in Queens, it makes sense for them to hit these business close to home. http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/despite-congressional-ban-3-d-printed-guns-still-have-future-2D11718212
@P_E_Norris I don’t think that’s true as long as you’re manufacturing it for yourself (may never be sold/transferred). There was also something about a rifled barrel requirement.
@Carlton_Dodd In the US, it is illegal to make a gun that’s undetectable by a metal detector, even for personal use. What this article is talking about is preventing that already existing law from expiring.
The new fear is not plastic guns. It is that many people will be able to make their own firearms, no matter how durable or accurate. Imagine if just a quarter of adults in America could print a gun able to fire 3 times, reasonably accurately at a short distance. To deny me the right to make my own gun makes a mockery of the second amendment, and would cause the ultimate court battle. For starters.
@Rick_Blake Ah but the thing is, in a lot of the rest of the world, we don’t have such heavily manipulated, deliberately misinterpreted and frankly ridiculous entries in our constitution and generally much stricter gun control to boot. In saying that I agree that people should be genuinely concerned about printed firearms, particularly if you live somewhere where you can’t rock up to a gun store and buy a handgun with ease. I don’t believe it’s a pressing issues now, with FDM as the accessible tech, but I’d put money on someone breaking the 5k barrier for an metal SLS machine over the next 5 years and when you can reliable produce complex metal components with a few mouse clicks, the whole printed gun thing becomes a much more relevant concern. In my opinion, obviously.
The second amendment says nothing about making firearms, @Rick_Blake . It only guarantees a right to keep and bear them.
In any event, you can currently make any gun you’d like. The liberator isn’t functional without a metal firing pin, which makes it detectable by metal detector and compliant with the law.
There was a show on TV on Sunday night here in Australia which spoke about 3D printing. 1/3 of it was in regards to the 3D printed car & how it’s being used in medicin. The other 2/3rds of it was in regards to Cody and Firearms.
Just a heads up, I’ll never be printing this gun or any other firearms (props are another thing IMHO… and they won’t fire).
a) the guns which explode by the police, from the example shown by the NSW Police force, I think they pritned it wrong, just to show how dangerous it can be.
b) in Australia, it is illegal to even print this gun
c) as you mentioned above, people can make guns out of items they already posses, why bring it up around 3D printers… well Cody and the fact that people wanted to push 3D printers to see whta they are capable of.
Cody comes across as someone who wants to make people aware of the technology and what it can do. The good and the bad (yet I don’t see him printing anything else other than firearms…)
In regards to their use, have you seen an episode of Elementary from this season where the weapon was the Liberator?
Yes it’s scary, and yes it’s possible. If someone is going to fire a weapon, they will get their hands on one anyway they can, this is just another way that they can. And the less people talk about it, the less attention it will get…
Considering any legal person can go get a surplus rifle for $90 3d printed guns coukf be used in revolutions but even then lowes has better safer optiond
A zip gun is at least as reliable as, if not more reliable than, a 3D printed gun. And one can be made just about anywhere, without specialized equipment, in a more easily quickly reproduced way.
A 3D printed plastic gun only has value as a novelty.
Thank you @Stephen_Baird for point out zip guns. They have been around a long time and probably less likely to blow up in you hand.
TV thrives on fear, so they will stay on this gun bandwagon. Meanwhile kids are getting new fingers, skulls are repaired, amazing stuff is being made but we only hear guns.
The paranoid would say it’s a campaign starting to make 3d printing to add heavy DRM and spying on 3d printers.
I think it was last year that we had the one shooting in an elementary school and people seemed to be totally unaware that at about the same time there was a guy cutting teachers and kids with a knife in China. A gun, a knife, it does not matter. Things do not kill people. Assholes with issues kill people.
@Rick_Blake I don’t think you’re quite hearing what I’m saying. You can moralize or philosophize about what it means to be able to make guns, and that’s fine, but that’s not what I did and is not relevant to the point I made.
I pointed out that the second amendment does not guarantee an individual’s right to make guns and no such right exists.
I also pointed out that the issue is moot anyway, because in the US you are perfectly free to make a gun for your own use (provided it is not undetectable by a metal detector).
@NathanielStenzel That ‘guns don’t kill people’ blah blah is such a ridiculous argument. Guns facilitate killing rapidly, repeatedly and from a distance like no other weapon; hand guns and automatic weapons serve no purpose other than as instruments of death or maiming. I agree there are crazy assholes everywhere but I’d prefer my crazy assholes to only have easy access to pointy things, rather than automatic weapons. @Nuker_Bot_NukerBot_3 Rather than shut people down about printed guns, I recommend you engage them in a discussion about it; explain the multiple benefits of 3d printing as @Alan_McNeil points out but acknowledge that printing guns is a valid concern. This problem isn’t going away, chances are that additive manufacturing will get cheaper and the finished products will get stronger and more detailed. We, as people who know about this technology are in a position to educate those with concerns about printed guns. And I can’t say this often enough, particularly if you don’t live in the states, these are valid concerns and we should be prepared to help people understand the facts.
Guns are just the excuse they are using to control manufacturing they are scared we won’t need them in the future so they’ll use this to legislate, control and tax us.
Stephen, my point is that if you are prohibited from making your own gun, you are denied the right to possess one. Yes, you can also acquire one by purchase, but making your own guarantees your right to possess. The right to buy presupposes the supply, and that is no guarantee.
I’m thinking of making a 3d printed cannon that should stop em talking about guns pmsl
(Seriously just ignore them and FOX will go away and pester somebody else as thats all they do )
@Tim_Rastall printing a gun is more difficult then making a gun. We used to make stupidly simple fire arms when I was young. The idea that 3d printing lowers the barrier is ridiculous.
Look at IEDs they are made in every country with over the counter merchandise. The idea that preventing 3d printing guns will decrease the barrier to weapons makers is ridiculous. The argument that limiting these weapons are undetectable is moot, people can make weapons with almost anything.
This is like saving your trying to keep your toast from burning when your house is on fire.