I’ve written a review of the 3D Systems Projet 1200. I know this is a commercial printer, but my article is from the perspective of someone who generally uses open source printers. I hope therefore it might be of interest to the group.
http://www.southquay3d.com/index.php?route=news/article&news_id=16
It’s all good. You’re what I’d consider a respected community member. Post whatever you feel is appropriate.
Interesting. I’m not surprised it works so smoothly, for a price like that, but it’s neat to see a hands on account just the same.
Do you know what each resin cartridge costs/about how many 5cm tall Arias you could get out of each one?
It really has a Beagle Bone Black inside it? That doesn’t sound like a 3D Systems design… must be an acquisition like BFB and BotObjects.
@Stephen_Baird It’s 490USD for a pack of 10 cartridges and each contains 30cm3 of resin. As the scaled Aria models I used (which were actually 50.66mm tall) had a volume of 1.62cm3, you could get 18 Arias with some left over resin. So, roughly, 2USD per Aria. I didn’t print all Arias though:-)
Thank you for asking that question, I’ve updated my article with the information.
Thanks for sharing, now a comparison to the form1+ and the autodesk Ember would be a great article.
Hope you gonna get those offered too 
Nice
Thank you for sharing. Can you share more on why you said that the software experience is better than the open source equivalent? How is that experience comparing to a more professionally-looking one like Makerbot?
If my math is right, that is $1633 per liter of resin. 10 cartridges, 30cc per cartridge, 300cc for the pack, one liter being 1000cc.
@Jeff_DeMaagd , 1000cc being 1kg. For those not on the metric system. So just a bit significantly more expensive.
@ThantiK You’re converting volume to mass there, so density is a factor. The density of the resin is probably greater than that of water, though probably not by a lot.
For a better comparison, 1 liter (1000cc) is equal to 1.25kg of PLA or 1.04kg of ABS.
1000cc is 1 liter. It’s 1kg only if the density is 1g/cc.
Assuming the density is close to that of Makerjuice’s Sub-G, it’s around 1.052 g/cc, which is just slightly more than ABS, and would mean that 1000cc = 1.052kg.
@Whosa_whatsis you know…I typed it out, with the whole explanation. Then I figured…fuck it, people will understand the densities are about the same and deleted it for brevity.
My point of reference was other resin systems, I didn’t catch that was a comparison to filament. I was thinking FormLabs resin was expensive, which is $150/liter for standard materials. This is over 10x as much.
Looking around confirms that this machine is designed for super fine detail, such as jewelry, I gather 3DS offers a cast able resin. This review’s photos shows it makes incredibly fine parts.
@Whosa_whatsis The Cube Pro C is the botObjects machine. That particular Projet was announced about a year ago but I don’t think it shipped until last spring.
@dstevens_lv I know that. My point was that if there’s a BBB in this machine, it probably wasn’t originally designed by 3D Sys either. It was probably developed by another company that, like BotObjects, was acquired by 3D Systems before their product shipped.
i dont know this model but I use other professional 3D printers from stratasys and also have a plain home FDM machine of my own. You cannot even compare a pro with a home version, there are light years between! eventhough the pro versions development was ready about 10 years ago a home machine is nowhere near the simplicity of use and fine tuning of a pro machine. Pro really is a one-click go. not like all the issues with a home machine… still a along way to go… I am surprised because it is all there already a long time and they dont even copy it… ( ok there are many patents on it…)
@Whosa_whatsis Considering that when the development on the machine started they were still able to enforce the SLA patents. The technoloyg appears to be from thier exisiting patent portfolio. They wouldn’t need to aquire it. It’s possible, but there is nothing pointing that may be the case. If they did buy someone it would have to be in the SEC filings. Look around that time, see who they bought and see if that company had anything like this. This was one among the interesting crop of desktop SLA I saw at CES.
@Whosa_whatsis @dstevens_lv
Maybe it will be just using the TI refference design for BBB which is the replicape?
http://www.ti.com/tool/tidep0007
Think thats it.
