Originally shared by 3DPrepper
The site is up. First post is just a short one on the @Defense_Distributed #ghostgunner
I want to do a more in-depth post on the Ghost Gunner in the future, but I needed to get off my ass and make the site available.
#oshw #prepper cnc #preppertalk
Interesting. The guy in the video says it is a problem when they turn the ghost gun into a full gun, but I find it more of a problem when the US government gives guns to ISIS or similar and just to have to try to destroy ISIS a few years later. If we give guns to people who will do bad things with them, we are worse than ghost gun. At least I was told the guns came from the USA, but I can’t be positive. We have given guns to Bagdag and now the enemy has it after capturing Bagdag.
Great point @NathanielStenzel . That’s been the trend for decades hasn’t it? We give the guns, then they are turned around and used on us… And they don’t want US to have them because they don’t want us to use them or what? Hippocratic isn’t it?
@Jason_Ray it is hyppocratic. We should be removing guns our from there and not adding guns there. We should not care who has weapons here. We should punish bad use of guns here.
Well said @NathanielStenzel l
We should also not be publicizing this for our own self-aggrandizement. Only bad results can come from widely and noisily publicizing the fact that you can manufacture your own guns at home.
You may be right @lola_butt … but it’s up to the person to decide what they do with the resources available to them isn’t it? People get to exploit all kinds of stuff, and it’s been well know that it’s not illegal to make your own self-defense weapons at home. It’s only a CNC machine which has been available for many years, even as open source recently, and @Defense_Distributed is making people more aware.
“it’s been well know that it’s not illegal to make your own self-defense weapons at home.”
no, it’s not. At least, it’s not well-known to the general public. Every time one of these stories hits, lots and lots of people are shocked that it’s legal.
If people like @Defense_Distributed keep pushing this into the limelight, you risk having home-manufactured firearms made illegal.
Awareness by the general public of the fact that making firearms at home is legal has absolutely zero upside and a huge downside.
It may be my miss-assumption , or maybe people were just not aware of that depending on where/how they were raised.
But it is well aware that things aren’t made illegal to stop the people from hurting themselves, things are made illegal so that somebody can profit off of it, right? At least in the Good’ol US and A…
yeah I dont know about that, all I’m saying is that Defense Distributed is actively working against our best interests. There already exist many, many open source CAD, CAM and CNC implementations. Making one tailored specifically to manufacturing weapons at home is an open invitation to government regulation. It benefits no one but Defense Distributed.
Don’t you think it benefits open source? Think of how many completely new people who never had a clue about what open source was… Or the ideology about open source do now because of what @Defense_Distributed has done… Did you ever see anything mentioned about open source in the news before last year?
Actually I’d like to find that out… Thanks for the idea @lola_butt !
I’ll try to see if I can find out how many google searches were done on the term “open source” and “3d printing” were done before they released the wikiweapon and see what happened around that time frame. You know of any resources off hand?
“Don’t you think it benefits open source?”
No. I think a weapon-manufacturing-specific CNC machine is actively detrimental to open source hardware. It brings nothing to the table that doesn’t already exist, and it opens the door to a slew of regulatory possibilities.
We disagree. Thanks for the fun conversation and the idea to research the search terms. I understand your concern and I’d hate to see open source have to go underground “again” but once it’s open, it’s open.
I guess I care more about the right to manufacture firearms at home than I do about the popularity of open source hardware.
I did a little research on the impact of search terms at the time of the wiki weapon release… And it didn’t have the impact I thought. Actually searches for open source went up a tad and then right back down the months after. I asked DefDist if they had any data of their own and initially got a response on Twitter but no response to the data, so I’m guessing they just didn’t track it. Just a quick update as I was reminded of this post from @GTEN_Ball_Screw_Tech