I don’t mind occasionally letting your content into the community. But you even MULTI-POST it to THIS community! When I banned that entry in the spam queue? There were TWO of them! If you don’t see it show up because someone marked it as spam…WAIT. Or contact one of us. We’ll unhide it. But posting it again, and again, and again – thinking you’re going to get around G+ spam protections, just will land you banned.
This also isn’t the first time where you’ve posted one of your videos to this community 2 or 3 times in a row. So, fine. You’re right – I’m not the G+ police. Even going by that little goalpost of yours, you’ve still spammed THIS community @Anthony_Martin .
Additionally, if anyone would like to pretend “we don’t get any benefit from this!”: https://gleam.io/ is what they’re using for the ‘contest entries’. Except you don’t see any of that nice “oh look we’re a marketing platform!” advertisement on their little win-a-printer page.
So what’s really going on here, is they’re harvesting emails for marketing purposes – and @Anthony_Martin is pissed off because he either gets a cut, or he’s planning on using this collection of emails to spam everyone who wanted a free 3D printer. You’ve seen that he’s not above these kinds of tactics with his page.
I actually suggest we remove this post - because it serves to counter the purpose for us removing his spam in the first place. Having his page linked right at the top of our community simply gives him the hits he wants. Drama serves even moreso to drive viewers to his page.
I did view some of the channel, and it does genuinely look like MAYBE there’s some attempt at helping people there, but it’s so intermingled with clickbait tactics and penis humor that I can’t tell. I’m not against allowing the posts, so long as they’re genuine and come at an interval which does not flood the community.
So, I’ll leave the decision up to the other owners/moderators here – it’s not MY community, it’s the community’s community. That’s why we have so many people upped to the position of “OWNER” here. They all have the same permissions I do, and can even remove me from this community if they so wished. I do my best to simply work as a janitor - I do not remove posts for any reason other than to manicure toxic entries according to what I believe is a sensible standard; one that’s been outlined quite clearly. That’s been super-hard occasionally, as the line isn’t always black and white…and we have to deal with situations like this one here.
Remember: All I did was click the damn create button because whosawhatsis wouldn’t. (shakes fist) I’m a nobody. I’m just here to help others, and hopefully keep this community full of relevant, high quality, useful information and communication.
I say leave this thread, it’s got some good info, and if there’s anything I’ve learned from the CP group is that no one reads the instructions anyways.
This seems to be a great place to drop a quick Thank you to the moderators and contributors that keep this a community with lots of good signal and very little noise. I joined because I was considering 3d printing and wanted to learn. Even though I decided that 3d printing isn’t for me, I stay because there is a lot of interesting and useful information being shared.
Another major difference (in my mind, at least) is that Thomas has been a long-term member of this community who has made significant contributions to it before producing his videos and promoting them. His expansion into the videos was a pretty natural progression and is, I feel, appreciated by many people.
That’s the difference.
An established name in a community doing some self promotion is fine. A random drive-by person posting their self promotion (and posting it literally anywhere they can) raises all kinds of red flags and isn’t so fine.
(copied from the other post) Thomas also asked before posting his series of Filaween videos because of the rules of this group and it was deemed extremely helpful and educational by the community.
Descriptions are useful, response to questions is useful. Basically if all you ever do on this group is post links for self promotion, you’re gonna get banned.
If you’ll notice, a lot of people on this group spend their time answering detailed technical questions and support. We don’t get paid for all of the time spent answering these questions and even doing some research to answer them. This community is open source, not in the sense that we only support open source, but that we provide a means of support that is open. It’s not like a forum where ad revenue is generated for the owner.
And because it’s completely open, it is difficult to moderate. Anyone will spam here, and we do our best to research and decide each post or profile. That means clicking on links, reviewing profiles, watching videos, reading research papers, etc. It takes a long time, so we will come to a decision as quickly as possible so we can continue. If an error is made, just contact a moderator. If you’re not a bot, and not a jerk looking for viewers, then you might be allowed back in.
Basically my steps for every single post is to check if it immediately throws any red flags and if it does, check the profile of the person doing it and explain the issue. I’ve had good responses there and bad responses there. Sometimes people don’t accept the rules and get upset at us about it. Honestly given the amount of time that every single mod like myself or owner spends on reviewing the insane amount of content here, I’m pretty impressed. Yeah, we do have issues from time to time and we’d like to use them to learn and maybe even change policy. It’s very easy for us to immediately split into an us vs them discussion, especially when it’s so easy to get angry over the internet, but I would like to attempt to approach this more civilly as a request to unban from this user.
@Anthony_Martin I actually didn’t see any original posts by the hot end and haven’t checked out your contest at all, so I’m an unbiased position here. I give every post scrutiny, even companies I’ve consulted with before or owners of this community including every post made by @Thomas_Sanladerer . We’ve also had a few cases where someone was banned but then later unbanned. Please present why you believe you shouldn’t have been banned here, without getting upset at us. Seek first to understand, and we will do the same.
Other mods and owners, I humbly request that you take a step back and a deep breath. While it’s important to present a unified view on this front, it seems that this person is feeling attacked and singled out, whether the intention is there or not. I would like to hear an unbiased view without either party being on high level defensive.
If I check a person’s profile page and see some posts going to multiple communities when they do not fit the subject of that community, I will assume they will put unrelated stuff in this community and then I will ban them. That only comes up when I look at the spam list of the community. If I am ever in doubt about if something is spam or not, I leave it to another moderator or an owner to decide. I almost never have to deal with deciding if something is spam that is not already marked as spam.