Printing elastic filament I just want to share what i tried so far and

Printing elastic filament
I just want to share what i tried so far and get your input on what worked for you and what not.
I think everyone who ever tried printing elastic material came to the point where you realize that the most important part is the guidance of the filament after the bolt. There are a couple of solutions for this and i tried a few of them.
At first i tried to modify a wade extruder, but the idler / bolt diameter mismatch made it difficult. Inserting a PTFE tube in the lower part of the wade made things better, but was still not really reliable enough for me.
From 10 points i would give it a 4

Then i tried my hand at creating a bowden extruder for elastic filament and to my surprise it worked rather well. The final design i ended up with was my Compacto extruder. The PTFE bowden tube went through the complete extruder and had a hole on each side for the bolt and the idler.

The extruder worked totally reliable but was a PITA to load and unload. Also it was impossible to create a direct drive version of it.
For that it gets 8/10 from me.
Here are some earlier versions
https://photos.google.com/u/0/album/AF1QipNpPW5hAfuolH3Dap90JXbOjROlIXghfuryOeeD
https://photos.google.com/u/0/album/AF1QipNervU1i6jeW1WeQD79iMIRwIlEnQruMnQRNnKv

After that i came over a friends design, the TinyFlex

While i liked it a lot and it simply works, i did not like the mounting though. So again 8/10.
Thomas and i created a NEMA 14 variation

Of course it will only do 1.75mm filament, but it will easily cope with high print speeds (>100mm/s).
From that i derived the TinyFlex V, which offers a V Mount and can be mounted left or right sided (for dual or dual X carriage use).

That one is not fully finished yet so the design files are not online.
So far i give it 9/10

So what did you try? What did work, what did not?
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Nice. How much weight do you save with the nema14 version?
Also, what printer is that?
I’m looking to rebuild my Prusa i3 and it fits most of my criteria.

Depending on the NEMA 17 you compare it to 120+ gram You need one of the more powerfull NEMA 14, they make up half of the over all weight of the printhead.

Maybe I wasn’t looking hard enough, but I ended up finding that the torque per gram of motor weight favored a short NEMA 17.

I’ve done flexible reliably. It really just takes sleeving the filament path with PTFE tubing such that there is no opportunity to escape the path, and that there is nowhere to catch and snag the material. The top of the sleeve followed the curve of the pulleys above it. It doesn’t hurt to go slow either.

Nice one, Björn. I’m still looking for a reliable direct extruder that works well with flexible filaments. I totally fell in love with the connected gears that drive the filaments on both sides like @Brook_Drumm sold previously and also @Martin_Bondeus from Bondtech. I just ordered one for my new printers bowden setup but i think i’ll go for a cheaper solution to build one for my Ordbot. I had the Bulldog XL there previously. Unfortunately they gave me one that doesn’t work quite well which makes it hard to get it working.

Maybe i’ll find a solution to get the gears from Printrbot into a working case on my Ordbot, otherwise i might go with your setup and give it a try. Unfortunately the gears seem to be sold out currently - at least at Reprapteile.de - do you know of any other source?

@Helmi I already designed a x sled for the ordbot that takes the printhead in the picture. I have versions for Merlin and j-head mount. If you are interested i can send you the files for both. The sled reuses all parts of the original one.

sounds great - thanks for the offer. I would need it for the E3D, if you have step files or anything else that is tweakable that would be great.

@Helmi i only have stl or c4d

The files can be found here
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0By5RP0qeDY-5flVBbEV1bGkxOGh1QVdmeUlFZU1vZ0t5NnA1cEYtNDFBMHlLMkxSdUpDMkU&usp=sharing
Versions for J-Head Mount and M10(Merlin) are included. For the E3D you don’t nead the fan duct.

oh well of course you’re doing it in c4d - i forgot :slight_smile: Looks like Fusion360 is able to import them anyway - let’s see if i can work with them. Thanks anyway.

err it just uploaded them but didn’t convert them. Do you have any chance of exporting the files in any other, more generic 3d file format? DXF, IGES, SAT or whatever?

I can provide other polygonal formats, but no CAD files. Would OBJ or FBX be ok?

I don’t know of FBX but i guess whatever polygonal format i import i only get it imported as a mesh which (currently) makes in uneditable in Fusion360. But i could then still import it and use it as a template to do my own drawings. thanks for helping, Björn.

@Helmi I added most parts as FBX, Collada, OBJ and Alembic. The lever is STL only atm, i have to redo it. It is a very simple design though.

Thanks, @Bjorn_Marl - i’ll check that out.