@Sparr_Risher what if the Thingiverse suddenly gets an option to buy physical objects. Then your printed model is suddenly part of “Site and Services”, and generating money for MakerBot. I think they have shown they are mostly in it for the money.
@Daid_Braam yes, and? Any site with this functionality needs at least that language in its TOS to function. And could pull the same trick. You’ll just have to pay attention and remove your shit when such a thing happens. Doing it pre-emptively is irrational.
How has thingiverse shown they’re in it for the money?
By fusing with Makerbot maybe?
@Jasper_Janssen I clearly said MakerBot. MakerBot is in it for the money, 100%. Not to innovate, not to make the best possible products, but to make as much money possible.
I have the advantage of knowing Erik de Bruin, one of the early RepRap innovators. He actually knows the reality of thingiverse. Thingiverse was created before MakerBot. And the only association it used to have with MakerBot was that it was partially ran by the same people. MakerBot slowly absorbed thingiverse, up to the point where people are thinking that MakerBot always ran thingiverse. Thingiverse is build on the shoulders of the RepRap people, and those are the ones who feel cheated.
The TOS thing is totally pulled out of proportions, I agree on that part. But the TOS (and how the response to that was handled) was just part of a bigger issue quite a few people are having with MakerBot right now.
Thingiverse was always funded and operated by Makerbot. It just wasn’t made quite as clear as it is now.
Thingiverse was founded a year before MakerBot.
@Daid_Braam not how I remember it — or wikipedia. According to wikipedia thingiverse was started in November 08 and Makerbot was incorporated January 09. Roughly at the same time.
Yeah I think they made it as a way to steal designs from people. good thing I did not post my coffee can lid opener.
@Jasper_Janssen in your odd world Nov 08 seems to be after Jan 09, else thingiverse could never have always ran by makerbot. But enough arguing with a clear fanboy, guess Makerbot is really turning into the Apple of 3D printing.
@Daid_Braam I think I was pretty clear when I said “roughly at the same time”.
My recollection of that period is that Bre and co were doing preliminary design on what would become the thing-o-matic and a bunch of reprap-supporting work mostly on electronic PCBs quite a while before Makerbot was formally incorporated.
If you think everybody who disagrees with you on minor details is a fanboy, you probably see an awful lot of fanboys. You might want to consider why that happens.
For the record, I am very much not a fan of Makerbot and never have been. Even the TOM back when they were still doing actual Open was not great quality for the price. And since their pivot away from open (which technically happened a little while later, but which everyone could see coming from miles away the minute the VC investment became known), I dislike them intensely.
(Oh, and yes, I have some minor acquaintance with Erik. I am not a big fan of the way Ultimaker does business either.)